{"id":2649,"date":"2005-08-10T02:04:00","date_gmt":"2005-08-10T06:04:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.kitfoster.com\/carport\/2005\/08\/we-do-windows\/"},"modified":"2010-12-30T12:02:05","modified_gmt":"2010-12-30T17:02:05","slug":"we-do-windows","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/www.kitfoster.com\/carport\/2005\/08\/we-do-windows\/","title":{"rendered":"We Do Windows"},"content":{"rendered":"<p class=\"picright\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.kitfoster.com\/images\/2005-8-10_41PontiVertLeftWeb-Large.jpg\" target=\"_blank\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/www.kitfoster.com\/images\/2005-8-10_41PontiVertLeftWeb-Feature.jpg\" width=\"220\" height=\"137\" alt=\"41 Pontiac convertible\"><\/a><\/p>\n<p>You&#8217;ve seen this car before. It was <a href=\"http:\/\/www.kitfoster.com\/images\/2005-1-12_Where'sWalter1Web-large.jpg\">in the way<\/a> when Wayne Graefen went to retrieve &#8220;Ivy,&#8221; his <a href=\"http:\/\/www.kitfoster.com\/images\/2005-1-12_WalterThereHeIsWeb-large.jpg\">1932 Plymouth convertible sedan<\/a>. At last report, it was still sitting in the same Southern California rest home for old automobiles. Wayne notes that it&#8217;s the convertible coupe style <a href=\"http:\/\/www.kitfoster.com\/images\/2005-8-10_41PontiVertRightWeb-Large.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Illustration of '41 Pontiac convertible - right\" target=\"_blank\"class=\"imglink\"><br \/>\nwithout side windows<\/a> for the rear passengers.<\/p>\n<p>That set me to thinking. When did rear side windows appear in convertibles and why? I think I know why (better view for the back seat crowd), but it took a bit of research to figure out when. In the beginning, of course, there were was no reason for the windows, as back seat passengers <a href=\"http:\/\/www.kitfoster.com\/images\/2005-8-10_Tod'sPlymWeb-Large.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Illustration of '36 Plymouth rumble seat\" target=\"_blank\"class=\"imglink\"><br \/>\nrode outdoors<\/a>. With the advent of the indoor back seat, the convertible&#8217;s top was merely extended to cover them. These <a href=\"http:\/\/www.kitfoster.com\/images\/2005-8-10_1937FordCabrioletsWeb-Large.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Illustration of '37 Ford convertibles\" target=\"_blank\"class=\"imglink\"><br \/>\n&#8217;37 Fords<\/a> illustrate the difference.<\/p>\n<p>The first convertibles to use side windows as we now know them, winding down into the side walls, were the &#8220;big&#8221; Mopar makes, Dodge, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.kitfoster.com\/images\/2005-8-10_41DeSotoVertWeb-Large.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Illustration of '41 DeSoto convertible\" target=\"_blank\"class=\"imglink\"><br \/>\nDeSoto<\/a> and Chrysler in 1941. Plymouth, however, continued to use the &#8220;blind&#8221; style top <a href=\"http:\/\/www.kitfoster.com\/images\/2005-8-10_41PlymVertWeb-Large.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Illustration of '41 Plymouth convertible\" target=\"_blank\"class=\"imglink\"><br \/>\nthat year<\/a>, and right on through <a href=\"http:\/\/www.kitfoster.com\/images\/2005-8-10_46PlymVertWeb-Large.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Illustration of 1946-48 Plymouth convertible\" target=\"_blank\"class=\"imglink\"><br \/>\n1948<\/a>. (Dodge devotees will remind us of the Wayfarer, the 1949-<a href=\"http:\/\/www.kitfoster.com\/images\/2005-8-10_50DodgeWayfWeb-Large.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Illustration of 1950 Dodge Wayfarer roadster\" target=\"_blank\"class=\"imglink\"><br \/>\n1950<\/a> three-passenger roadster, that of course needed no rear windows. Curiouser was this <a href=\"http:\/\/www.kitfoster.com\/images\/2005-8-10_ChrysT&#038;C3WWeb-Large.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Illustration of three-passenger Chrylser Town &#038; Country\" target=\"_blank\"class=\"imglink\"><br \/>\nthree-passenger Chrysler Town &#038; Country<\/a> convertible, apparently advertised but perhaps never built?<\/p>\n<p>Ford Motor Company makes made the switch in <a href=\"http:\/\/www.autogallery.org.ru\/k\/f\/42fordel.jpg\">1942<\/a>, including the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.lzoc.org\/photos\/Images\/42convertiblecoupe.jpg\">Lincoln-Zephyr<\/a> but excepting the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.kitfoster.com\/images\/2005-8-10_42LincContiWeb-Large.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Illustration of 1942 Lincoln Continental convertible\" target=\"_blank\"class=\"imglink\"><br \/>\nContinental<\/a>, whose blind quarters were a styling feature and continued through to 1948.<\/p>\n<p>As it turns out, our feature car was the last of its breed, as Pontiac, with all of the other GM brands, installed rear windows for <a href=\"http:\/\/www.kitfoster.com\/images\/2005-8-10_42PontiVertWeb-Large.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Illustration of 1942 Pontiac convertible\" target=\"_blank\"class=\"imglink\"><br \/>\n1942<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>You might ask, &#8220;What&#8217;s the big deal about those windows? Why didn&#8217;t everybody start using them at the same time?&#8221; Well, there&#8217;s more to them than meets the eye. In order to make them retract it&#8217;s necessary to re-engineer the whole body, providing space for the window when it&#8217;s down and a lowering mechanism that pivots the glass so as to obviate a center pillar. The independent manufacturers, understandably, took longer to put this into practice. Packard continued their <a href=\"http:\/\/www.kitfoster.com\/images\/2005-8-10_41PackardVertWeb-Large.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Illustration of 1941 Packard convertible\" target=\"_blank\"class=\"imglink\"><br \/>\nblind quarters<\/a> through <a href=\"http:\/\/www.seriouswheels.com\/1940-1949\/1942-Packard-Convertible-Cream-BT-SA.htm\">1942<\/a>, then built no convertibles at all in 1946 or &#8217;47. The first &#8220;rear-side-window&#8221; Packard convertibles came with the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.kitfoster.com\/images\/2005-8-10_PackardCust8VertWeb-Large.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Illustration of Pregnant Packard convertible\" target=\"_blank\"class=\"imglink\"><br \/>\n&#8220;Pregnant Elephant&#8221;<\/a> models starting in 1948. Studebaker, curiously, offered no convertible coupes in the late 1930s; the last pre-war open cars were the convertible sedans of <a href=\"http:\/\/www.kitfoster.com\/images\/2005-8-10_StudeVertSedWeb-Large.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Illustration of 1938 Studebaker convertible sedan\" target=\"_blank\"class=\"imglink\"><br \/>\n1938<\/a> and &#8217;39. Post-war, the first convertible was the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.kitfoster.com\/images\/2005-8-10_47StudeVertWeb-Large.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Illustration of 1947 Studebaker Commander convertible\" target=\"_blank\"class=\"imglink\"><br \/>\n1947 model<\/a>. Nash took even longer. The blind quarter style, like this <a href=\"http:\/\/www.kitfoster.com\/images\/2005-8-10_39NashVertWeb-Large.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Illustration of 1939 Nash convertible\" target=\"_blank\"class=\"imglink\"><br \/>\n&#8217;39<\/a>, re-appeared in 1948 with Nash&#8217;s <a href=\"http:\/\/www.angelfire.com\/mi3\/monroecountycems\/48GreatLakes.htm\">first postwar convertible<\/a>, then disappeared again. The next Nash convertible was the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.kitfoster.com\/images\/2005-8-10_NashRamblerVertWeb-Large.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Illustration of 1950 Rambler convertible\" target=\"_blank\"class=\"imglink\"><br \/>\n1950 Rambler<\/a>, whose side windows didn&#8217;t disappear at all. The first &#8220;Nash product&#8221; with &#8220;conventional&#8221; side windows was the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.arizonaconnection.net\/moredetails.html?80179511&#038;sitecode=arizonaconnection\">1961 Rambler American convertible<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Hudson&#8217;s approach to windows was evolutionary. In 1937, Hudson offered two types of convertibles, the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.kitfoster.com\/images\/2005-8-10_37TerraConvCoupeWeb-Large.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Illustration of 1937 Terraplane Convertible Coupe\" target=\"_blank\"class=\"imglink\"><br \/>\n&#8220;Convertible Coupe&#8221;<\/a> with blind quarters, and the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.kitfoster.com\/images\/2005-8-10_37TerraConvBroughWeb-Large.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Illustration of 1937 Terraplane Convertible Brougham\" target=\"_blank\"class=\"imglink\"><br \/>\n&#8220;Convertible Brougham&#8221;<\/a> with rear side windows (Terraplane models shown). The single rear passenger in the Convertible Coupe rode sideways. The Brougham evaded the engineering problems of the windows by making them part of the top, a sort of side curtain that was removable when the top went down. Starting in 1941, you could order Hudson convertibles with or without glass rear side windows. The rear windows did not crank down, however, they lowered with the top. This arrangement prevailed until <a href=\"http:\/\/www.kitfoster.com\/images\/2005-8-10_47HudsonVertWeb-Large.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Illustration of 1947 Hudson convertible\" target=\"_blank\"class=\"imglink\"><br \/>\n1947<\/a>. Lest we think Hudson incomparably clever, however, I remind you that <a href=\"http:\/\/www.kitfoster.com\/images\/2005-8-10_BantamVertsWeb-Large.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Illustration of 1940 Bantam convertibles\" target=\"_blank\"class=\"imglink\"><br \/>\nBantam<\/a> had a similar option in 1940.<\/p>\n<p>If you&#8217;d like to rescue that &#8217;41 Pontiac Deluxe Torpedo Six, the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.kitfoster.com\/static\/contact-the-carport.shtml\">CarPort<\/a> can put you in touch. It comes complete with bees in the side pocket.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>You&#8217;ve seen this car before. It was in the way when Wayne Graefen went to retrieve &#8220;Ivy,&#8221; his 1932 Plymouth convertible sedan. At last report, it was still sitting in the same Southern California rest home for old automobiles. Wayne notes that it&#8217;s the convertible coupe style without side windows for the rear passengers. 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